“I’m trying to create a world where there’s no racism, there’s no sexism, there’s no homophobia. And I know it’s not real life, but I kinda don’t care. I’d like to create a world where none of that matters, you have the supernatural creatures for that to work as an analogy. In my mind if you can create a world like that on tv, maybe life starts to imitate it. That’s important to me. I think there are other shows that are better equipped to deal with serious topics. We’re doing werewolves in high school.”—Jeff Davis, Teen Wolf showrunner from this interview on AfterElton (via astheplanetsbend)
Summary: In which Jackson is Turned, and Stiles smells too damn good. It’s not necessarily an original premise, but it’s written extremely well. The author does a fab job depicting Jackson, and how, when he’s thinking as a human, he’s utterly confused, but when the wolf takes over, he pretty much gets exactly how things should go. Also, it has great Danny and Jackson BROTP moments, and I think you all know how I feel about that. If for nothing else, then read it to get to the moment where Stiles utters these lines:
“Did he just – did you just – did I just get given away?” Stiles yelps. “No, seriously. Did Scott just give me to you? Is that legal? I’m pretty sure there are laws against that, like, ‘you can’t give away your best friend, even if you’re a freaking werewolf, no really’ laws. You do realize I’m a person, right?”
The only thing that could have improved this fic for me would have been the inclusion of some actual smut.
I would have helped you. ;) Okay you didn’t answer my question if you got the part. I think you did not. So my question was if it was sarcasm or if you really do make such a difference between 16 and 17? Sometimes the written word is confusing. :D
Oh, I totally did not get that part and interpreted your original wording as ‘get’ as in ‘understand’, not literally ‘get’ LOL
In my happiest of worlds? 18 would be the minimum age for any of the kids to get involved with Derek. But since 17 blurs the line of legality depending on state, I can deal. And yeah, maturity matters in that equation. After all, my original OTP of OTPs has as much as two decades between them, but he’s got the maturity of a twelve year old, and she’s a government science project gone wrong. So they match in maturity, and while I generally prefer her to be at least 20, I can deal with fics where she’s 17, because she’s literally experienced every ugliness life has to offer. Whereas Stiles is still very, very young in maturity. OBVIOUSLY more mature than the majority of the kids on the show, and yes, with a GREAT capacity to give and heal and help - I simply want him to experience some life before he dates Derek.
Derek and Erica will be a thing. Also, the thing with Kate & Derek, I mean they never really got it out there that it had been “wrong”, you know what I mean? I mean, Kate was a nuthead and that was the main part, not that there was underage sex.
And you are absolutely allowed your opinion on that, just like I’m allowed my opinion that Kate was little better than a psychotic child molester. I can’t really control whether Erica and Derek will be a thing, since MTV has yet to contact me for my writing skills;) but I can and will be disappointed in the storyline choice if she’s underage.
:D Sry, but how old are you? Bc I don’t think that you are that much older than me! ;) The thing is, everyone assumes Stiles to be 16, when he also could be 17, or Erica, I mean she as a history of sickness so it could be very likely that she is 18+
And of course, if they’re 17 or 18, then we move into different territory - although I still would want Stiles to probably date some other people first; I’d have to learn more about Erica before I made that call for her. I love Derek with all my heart, but that boy is a big ball of dark complicated, and it could be all too easy to break somebody in that black hole of his emotions. But from all evidence for Stiles, with the way High School is structured in the U.S., he would be 16. I’ll wait for MTV to change that, as they are wont to do…
(Actually, my head!canon is that Erica has had a crush on Stiles for several years, but he’s never noticed her because of his obsession with Lydia. Once Erica gets the bite and goes all Swan, she’s ready to take it out on people… What can I say, I like to make up stories in my head…)
My age is among the few personal things I don’t feel comfortable putting out over the internet - especially on as public a forum as Tumblr. But I had my first child rather late by U.S. standards, and she’s approaching tweenhood.
Are you from the US? It’s just because where I come from it is not forbidden to have sex with teenagers 16+ and idk… it’s kinda weird, yes, but I mean, Derek is ONLY 23 and I just don’t get why everyone is so y’know…so not wanting this to happen
I would guess I’m probably a good deal older than you are, and am looking at things from a different perspective, and my answer would be long winded and deal with issues of brain and maturity and development, but, in short and specifically dealing with Stiles -
While seven years isn’t a huge difference at certain points in life, the brain development between 16 and 23 (and I’ll give you that I call bullshit over MTVs retconning and don’t place Derek at anymore than 21) is vastly different. Beyond that, it would be absolutely unfair for Stiles to be in a relationship with Derek at this point in his life, where he’s had zero experience. It’s one thing for him to try to help Derek as his friend, hell, even as his BFF, but to ask him to try to heal him as a lover? Far, far too much weight to place on someone that young and inexperienced. It’s soul crushing, and not where I want to see Stiles before he’s had a chance to mature some. Derek is about a +12 on the complicated relationship scale, and Stiles hasn’t even dealt with a +2.
And from Derek’s side, I think it would be completely out of character. He was seduced and taken advantage of by an adult when he was Stiles age or less, and with all that we’ve seen of his personality in season 1, he’d be more likely to gnaw off his own arm than think he might do that to someone else.
I know I’m in the minority opinion on this, especially with the number of fics out there where Stiles is 16 or younger even, but it’s one of the few things I feel strongly about and would be disappointed if the show went there with *anyone*.
What I would like to see would be a reveal that Stiles does, in fact, have a crush on Derek. It could be early in season, whatever. And then by the end of season 2, we find out Derek does have feelings for him. And then we could angst about it for the next couple seasons until it finally happens.
Just finished the first double expresso of the evening as I begin my all nighter to write this paper. Let the games begin….
Just for shits and giggles, this is how the reader is introduced to the subject of the paper:
“Something fractured in Jayne then, some profound need to reassure himself this was real, that they had, in fact, all survived this thing, that none of the three had been lost to a vendetta in this place of madness that had spawned his bond brother.
Riddick was already half naked and the quasi-ledge was at a perfect height; it was a simple thing to roll him to his knees on the stone rise and push his bloodied and torn pants down, and then only the span of a breath for Jayne to unfasten his own cargos.”1
Thus begins the sex scene between Jayne Cobb and Richard B. Riddick, in the 2011 Firefly/Chronicles of Riddick fanwork crossover, Rescue, by GoddessofBirth (authors of fannish works rarely reveal their real names, instead almost exclusively choosing to use pen names to identify and connect themselves with their product.) It is a far cry from the moment of sexual intimacy included in A Fragment out of Time2, published in Grup #3 in September of 1974, a short story set in the world of Star Trek and widely recognized as the first tale of a new genre - “slash” - where the focal relationship is one between two members of the same sex. In the sexual encounter in A Fragment out of Time, no names were used, and the genders of the participants were not given. It was only in the next issue of Grup, that author Diane Marchant stepped forward and revealed that the individuals were, indeed, James T. Kirk and Spock, the male Captain and First Officer of the U.S.S. Enterprise.3
If it is, MTV is doing their marketing all wrong. THEY HAVE HIM WITH HIS JEEP. I think they’re telling us: yes, yes, go ahead. This can become a thing now. We understand. We’ve seen the SPN fandom.
You know what else I could totally ship Stiles with? Pie. Stiles/Jeep/Pie. OT3 of OT3s. He can be the annoying little brother Sam and Dean never wanted. Except then that makes me think of Adam. Which is sad. So I’m going back to thinking about Stiles eating pie in a pornographic manner in the driver’s side of his Jeep, while Derek stares at him wide eyed from the passenger’s seat wondering when he started to get so turned on by someone eating, and for fuck’s sake, does Stiles have to keep licking the fork like that?!
So, is it too early in canon for me to OTP Stiles/Jeep? Because I totally do. And then, when we crossover SPN and Teen Wolf, Dean and impala!Baby will totally have a show down with Stiles and jeep!Baby, because fuck that, they both know their vehicle is the best one and HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY BABY, BITCH?!