Jeff really should give us a Chris-Working-Out montage for season three. FOR REASONS. MY REASONS.
that time Jeff created his own slash ship and crossover
alright, i understand where you’re coming from on this 10000% absolutely, definitely, totalllllly.
but you know what? in the grand scheme of things, derek isn’t ready to be with stiles right now, and stiles isn’t ready to be with DEREK right now.
so why deny stiles a chance to care for and be cared for by someone else? why deny him the chance to explore himself, to feel happiness, TO ACTUALLY GET WHAT HE WANTS? he certainly deserves to have something go right in his life.
we’ve been promised more sterek scenes, and, for sterek shippers, that should be the important thing here. stiles can care for and love someone else AND start to relate to derek better— those two things are not an “either/or” situation. sterek needs to get on common ground and go from there, but make no mistake about it: they’re not subconsciously ~waiting for each other~ here. they’re GOING to care about/like/love other people more than likely.
and i DON’T want to see any “stiles is dating so-and-so but is secretly pining for derek the whole time” come s3, because that’s so cheap. stiles is going to care about this person IF THEY DATE, and it’s going to be good. does that mean it’s going to be FOREVER? i don’t think so— in fact, probably not. if scallison is really over, then jeff davis has shown a really mature understanding of high school relationships: they’re passionate and problematic and FAST, and they can be equally amazing and awful. and when they end, people move on.
IF IF IF IF IF this gay character is going to be with stiles, i’m pretty sure that that relationship will run its course, too. (if for no other reason than because stiles is a main character and this character is a minor character?)
but stiles deserves some happiness, and I’M JUST REALLY HAPPY THAT THEY’RE GOING WITH THE BISEXUAL THING IN ANY CAPACITY? because that’s so cool that HEY HE’S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE ACTIVELY BISEXUAL IN THE CANON and you don’t really see that ever??? and it’s going to be so fun and i’m just so excited I DON’T THINK MY SHIP IS THREATENED EVEN A LITTLE BIT.
stiles and derek have the potential to be SO AMAZING and SO BIG and, you know, epic love story— but relationships are HARD man. they both need to experience things with other people to figure out THEMSELVES and how they are in relationships. they have to figure out that being in a relationship isn’t about giving yourself up and it’s not about worshiping someone else. it’s about companionship, passion, teamwork, and balancing selfishness and selflessness. and most people only learn those things through experience.
they’re not ready for each other yet, so let them be happy on their own now. derek has to learn to love and trust again, and stiles needs to know what it’s like to be in a relationship AT ALL.
in a romantic, perfect little world, they’d be those things for each other. but in a more realistic world— the world where they still don’t trust each other or even really LIKE EACH OTHER right now— they need more time and other people to help them out and smooth out their edges.
sterek sails on, my friend. just give it some time and appreciate any character development that gets thrown our way in the meantime xoxo
Seriously, you guys. It’s totally possible not only in the course of a show (and in the course of real life too) to 1. date one person for all of your life 2. date multiple people for varying periods of time or 3. not date anyone at all and not want to.
It doesn’t seem realistic to me for Stiles and Derek to be together in season 3, even with a four month time jump. I want Stiles to have relationships, to be loved and found attractive and whatever by multiple people and for him to you know DATE. Then in the end if Jeff chooses, when the characterization and plot is RIGHT, have them get together.
This post needs to around like wildfire, y’all.
^^^This. SO MUCH THIS. Stiles/Happiness is my OTP, yo. I will not hold his happiness hostage for the hope of ANY ship.
I’m hesitant to comment on his actual motivations, until we get more information from either he and/or Jeff, and not just gossip sites. Even if that turns out to be true, though, that would still not bother me nearly as much as how he chose to go about leaving. I’d shake my head and quietly think “idiot”, but if he’d taken steps to make sure the news was released in an appropriate manner, I would have respected that it was his personal decision.
I know we all want some kind of statement from both Colton and Jeff to clarify things - at least *I* do! - but I think the reason we haven’t is two fold. 1) There are now legality issues that have to be sorted. It’s entirely possible certain breaches of contract have occurred and will need to be dealt with. And 2) (and of a more hopeful bent) There are probably negotiations going on at the moment, in an attempt to come to a mutually beneficial resolution, which would allow Colton to remain on the show. We probably won’t hear anything until all of those avenues are exhausted and definitely dead.
Either way, I feel bad for the cast being gobsmacked with this information, and the fact that everyone’s storyline is going to have to be altered to deal with it. On the OTHER hand, maybe Keahu can be bumped to a main character in order to fill the space left by Jackson’s departure/death, and we can get some lovely Stanny moments.
I try to stay positive on these issues;)
Eh…I’m not panicking. 1) Jeff JUST finished episode 1, so this idea that FIVE episodes have already been written? Very unlikely. 2) Even if it IS true… does anyone remember when Jorga Fox and George Eads were fired from CSI during contract negotiation shenanigans? Yeah, that lasted about two weeks. So there is NOTHING that can’t be changed. Personally, I’ll wait for a confirmation from Jeff before I freak the fuck out. So, yeah, Jeff, how about get on that.
Thoughts about Danny Mahealani’s lack of character development through two seasons and where I’d like to see his character go in S3:
Dear Jeff Davis,
The character of Danny Mahealani has excited me from the start. He is unique in the television landscape as he doesn’t perpetuate the stereotype of the fashion and musical obsessed gay man (Not that I don’t embrace this kind of gay character as well, it’s just that this archetype has existed in the media since the dawn of film. It’s nothing new). I love that Danny is a popular jock who feels more comfortable in a t-shirt and jeans than a bowtie and designer threads. It’s also refreshing to see a gay man on television not being constantly victimized by bashers/bullies and/or his own internal struggle with his homosexuality and feel most comfortable in a circle of straight male peers. Danny is even idolized as one of the best looking and most athletic guys in school, which hopefully changes narrow-minds in their preconceived notions about what a gay man should look and behave like. I applaud the existence of such a thoughtfully wrought character.
I am however disappointed in the use of Danny from a story arc perspective. In Season 1 he began a rapport with Stiles in the infamous “Do you find me attractive?” scene and the hysterical “My cousin Miguel” scene between Danny, Stiles and Derek. Little by little it seemed like he was being integrated into the main cast. I had high hopes for Season 2 when we were told Danny would have a more important role. Yet it seems his screen-time was upgraded only slightly more than Season 1 as the introduction of many other characters took the opportunity of an expanded role away from him. He did however have an episode that featured him heavily, ‘Frenemy,’ but his lines were minimal and he only served the purpose of propelling other characters’ arcs forward, like Matt and Jackson. His role thus far can be summed up as follows: adding camp value with his homoerotic scenes involving Scott (of all people!), shirtless eye candy, and go-to tech guy with meaningful scenes between him and his best friend Jackson far and few between. He hasn’t played a vital part in the main story and is still completely in the dark compared to the rest of the cast concerning the supernatural activity in Beacon Hills.
As viewers we never saw Danny’s reaction to Matt’s death, even though he had a crush on him (I love Danny’s healthy sex-drive by the way and Jackson’s reaction to his flirtation with Matt.). He wasn’t on the field when Jackson “sacrificed” himself or in the locker room afterwards, nor was he present when Jackson turned into a werewolf. Jackson is supposedly his best friend, but Danny is left as clueless as he was in Season 1 when it comes to the supernatural activities surrounding him. I feel like there is so much opportunity for emotional growth in Danny’s character, yet he is relegated to dark humor (which is flawless), baring his torso (again flawless), hacking computers and playing lacrosse. He’s brilliant, funny and physically intimidating enough to be a great addition to Stiles and Scott’s mysterious adventures. Yet the door of opportunity remains open only a crack, with the light of potential never fully realized.
If Danny were to become romantically involved with one of the main or recurring characters, it would be an ideal opportunity to give him more screen-time and depth. Also there is a current lack of realistic gay teen couples on American television. Gay male teens are often presented as chaste (as if two teenage boys don’t have raging libidos), frivolous and hard to relate to, not to mention the appalling lack of bisexual male representation in the media. Stiles has dropped multiple hints (Am I attractive to gay guys? Wanna start making out for a second just to see how it feels?) that he isn’t completely heterosexual on the Kinsey scale. Having a character as universally loved and embraced as Stiles Stilinski come out as bisexual (as a lot of fans already view him) would be groundbreaking, not to mention the potential of a touching coming out scene between him and Sheriff Stilinski. We’ve already seen that the dynamic between Danny and Stiles is charming and memorable. They compliment each other perfectly. Danny is cool, aloof, emotionally sophisticated, athletic and popular while Stiles is sarcastic, intelligent, somewhat spastic, geeky, and devotedly loyal. And now they have something else besides their humanity, lacrosse, stagnant love lives and chemistry class in common: their best friends are werewolves and slowly drifting from their lives. This is a perfect route to have the two join forces. Considering Scott will be spending more time with Isaac next season, it gives Stiles a reason to branch out and associate with other people too and hopefully get over his crush on Lydia in the process as it’s becoming stale, cliché and repetitive.
MTV has always been a proponent of the gay community, featuring countless LGBT housemates on The Real World for over twenty years and airing many original series with gay characters. Teen Wolf now has a multitude of heterosexual couples and no gay couples even though there is an openly gay character and plenty of bi-curious moments between supposedly heterosexual characters. The majority of the fandom loves the idea of a gay couple (namely Sterek) and the show has a huge gay following. I still have faith there will be a gay pairing eventually, hopefully starting next season. And I trust the fandom would gladly embrace such a couple, even if it isn’t the fan favorite Sterek.
I’m imploring you to consider giving Danny a bigger role and a love interest (who is an important character, not some extra) whether it’s a main character like Stiles or a recurring one. Remember, everybody likes Danny!
icekitten, a devoted fan since the pilot
Yeah, I know, I’m overly passionate about Danny.
If Dylan co-writes an episode next season, all my dreams will have come true. Well, okay, that’s a damn lie, but ONE of my dreams will have come true.
Also, Jeff, I think you should write another episode where everybody gets drugged again, but this time they hallucinate making out with different people. You could make pretty much every shipper happy, for at least 48 minutes. Or hell, forget everybody getting drugged. Just let Stiles get drugged and hallucinate making out with different people. 95% of all shippers satisfied, guaranteed.
If it’s true that Scott becomes an Alpha in season 3, I’m curious as to whether he will poach Isaac from Derek. I would support that move wholeheartedly, although I’m not sure I support Scott as Alpha Actual. I kind of really liked the concept of him not literally having the Alpha authority, but drawing a strong pack around him and being Alpha just be dint of good decisions and righteous personality and inspiring loyalty. I guess I liked the contrast of all the different ways an Alpha personality could be manifest.
But I’ll hold out judgement until I see how Jeff works things.